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How To Get Paid To Go To College With Anthony Gary
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Episode Summary:

Exploring innovative strategies for financial independence, Anthony shares how he successfully navigated college expenses and emerged with a profit during his senior year. By combining scholarships, grants, and creative approaches like working as a resident assistant, he managed to offset tuition and living costs significantly. His insights disprove the conventional belief that college must lead to debt, emphasizing proactive financial planning throughout the undergraduate experience. Anthony illustrates how investing strategically in his education enabled him to graduate with minimal debt. His journey reflects the power of leveraging opportunities and smart financial choices, ultimately paving his path to financial independence and real estate investing. The conversation evolves to cover house hacking, managing properties, and approaching savings, providing actionable insights for listeners looking to enhance their financial journey.

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Episode Title: Strategies for College Financing and Real Estate Investing

Hosts: Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett

Guest: Anthony


Episode Summary: This episode features Anthony, who shares his innovative strategies for navigating college financing, including how he transformed his college experience into a profitable venture. By leveraging scholarships, financial aid, and a resident assistant position, Anthony not only minimized his education costs but also set the stage for a successful career in real estate investing.


Key Takeaways:

  • Navigating College Costs:

    • Anthony maximized his college experience by utilizing scholarships and financial aid effectively.
    • Applying for merit-based scholarships early is crucial for reducing financial burdens.
  • Utilizing Resident Assistant Positions:

    • Becoming a resident assistant can dramatically lower housing costs, often covering room and board.
    • Start networking and volunteering early to position yourself for such opportunities.
  • House Hacking in Real Estate:

    • After graduation, Anthony employed house hacking strategies to minimize living expenses and enhance savings.
    • House hacking involves renting out a portion of your home to cover mortgage costs.
  • Proactive Financial Strategies:

    • Anthony’s approach to student loans involved taking out subsidized loans and repaying them quickly, avoiding interest charges.
    • Negotiating terms on financial agreements is always encouraged.

Timestamps and Chapters:

  • Podcast Intro: Welcome to ChooseFI, your guide to financial independence.
  • Introduction to Anthony: Anthony shares his background and approach to college financing.
  • Choosing the Right College: Strategy for selecting a college based on career goals.
  • Scholarships and Grants: Importance of applying for scholarships early.
  • Becoming a Resident Assistant: How being an RA helped cut costs significantly.
  • House Hacking Strategy: Anthony explains his house hacking journey.
  • Real Estate Investment Journey: Discussion on transitioning into real estate investing.

Actionable Takeaways:

  • Apply Early: Apply for merit-based scholarships at the start of your college journey.
  • Become an RA: Seek resident assistant positions to offset living costs.
  • Negotiate Financial Terms: Always negotiate and explore different financial options.

Key Quotes:

  • "Maximized my college experience to earn money."
  • "Graduated with minimal debt—only $12,000!"
  • "Negotiate your financial future; it’s all possible!"
  • "Surround yourself with those who uplift you."


FAQs:

  • How did Anthony reduce his college costs?

    • By utilizing scholarships and becoming a resident assistant, reducing his overall financial burden.
  • What is house hacking?

    • Renting out a portion of a property to cover mortgage costs, successfully employed by Anthony.

Discussion Questions:

  1. How can scholarships impact your college experience?
  2. What's your experience with negotiating financial terms?
  3. How does house hacking work in real estate investing?

Podcast Description: Join ChooseFI as we explore powerful strategies for financial independence, from optimizing college expenses through scholarships and grants to savvy real estate investments. Learn how to transform your college years into a financially beneficial experience!


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Strategies for Financial Independence Through College Funding

Navigating the financial landscape of college can often feel daunting. However, with the right strategies, you can turn potential burdens into remarkable financial gains. Here, we outline proven steps to effectively finance your college education, minimize debt, and even profit from your college experience.

Maximize Scholarships and Grants

One of the most effective ways to reduce college costs is by applying for scholarships and grants. Begin researching and applying for merit-based scholarships early in your academic journey. Many students underestimate their eligibility or fail to apply altogether.

  • Application Tip: When you apply for college, ensure you're also filling out the FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid). Your Expected Family Contribution (EFC) plays a crucial role in determining your eligibility for financial aid and grants.

Anthony, a guest on the ChooseFI podcast, benefited significantly from a presidential scholarship that reduced his tuition cost by half. It's essential to understand that scholarships can often be based purely on merit, independent of financial circumstances. Look for opportunities that recognize your academic achievements, interests, or talents.

Leverage Student Employment Opportunities

Consider becoming a resident assistant (RA) during your college years. The role often comes with room and board perks, reducing your living expenses tremendously. Anthony shared how this position allowed him not only to save but also to earn a stipend, transforming his senior year into a profitable experience.

  • Action Step: To position yourself for an RA role, get involved early in housing-related activities on campus. Networking and volunteering can create opportunities that lead to employment within the housing department.

Using Anthony's example, you can start as a volunteer to secure a competitive edge when applying for RA positions. Many colleges offer similar roles that can significantly cut costs.

Manage Student Loans Wisely

If you find yourself needing to take out student loans, be strategic about it. Anthony highlighted that he only borrowed subsidized loans, which do not accrue interest while you are still in school and for six months after graduation. This strategy allowed him not to worry about accumulating debt right after college.

  • Tip for Borrowing: Stay within the limits of what you actually need. If the government allows you to borrow more than your expenses, consider using that extra funding smartly, such as investing or saving for immediate living costs, but understand the implications of debt.

Explore House Hacking After Graduation

Once you graduate, consider house hacking as a method to further enhance your financial independence. Anthony practiced house hacking by renting out rooms in his home, effectively reducing his mortgage expense to nearly zero. This financial strategy allows you to live at a lower cost while building equity in a property.

  • Defining House Hacking: House hacking involves renting out part of your residence to cover mortgage costs. This method not only reduces your monthly payment but also helps you build wealth through real estate.

Seek to purchase a home in a desirable area where you can find roommates or tenants easily, enhancing your income while maintaining a lower living cost.

The Importance of Networking

Throughout your college experience, networking is paramount. The people you surround yourself with can shape your opportunities and growth. Anthony mentioned the importance of connecting with peers and mentors in his field.

  • Networking Strategy: Attend events, join clubs, or volunteer in community projects related to your academic interests. This proactive approach can open doors for job opportunities or partnerships later on.

Continuous Learning and Personal Development

Financial independence isn't just about income; it’s also about the mindset of continuous learning. Regularly educate yourself on personal finance topics, investment opportunities, and economic principles.

  • Learning Mode: Incorporate podcasts, audiobooks, or online courses into your daily routine to enhance your financial knowledge. As Anthony suggested, listening to content at an increased speed can maximize your learning experience.

Negotiate and Understand Everything is Negotiable

Anthony emphasized that virtually everything is negotiable, including salaries, rent, and fees. Learning to negotiate effectively can lead to significant savings throughout your life. Approach every financial agreement with the mindset that there may be room for negotiation.

  • Negotiation Tips: Do your research before entering negotiations and be prepared to present your case confidently. Whether it’s discussing rent with a landlord or seeking a pay raise, don’t hesitate to ask for what you believe is fair.

Conclusion

Pursuing financial independence, especially through college, requires careful planning and proactive strategies. Utilizing scholarships, leveraging student employment, managing loans judiciously, house hacking, networking, and fostering a mindset of continuous learning can set you on the path to success. Remember, the financial choices you make in your youth can significantly influence your ability to achieve financial independence and live life on your terms.

For more inspiring insights and discussions on financial strategies, tune into the ChooseFI podcast, where a community of like-minded individuals shares their journeys to financial freedom.

Anthony talks about the strategy he used to go to college for profit in his senior year. The strategies he outlines could be used as early as freshman year to make college a profitable experience.

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High School

In high school, Anthony had a relatively high GPA and solid standardized test scores but no means to pay for college. As a self-proclaimed "know-nothing" high schooler, Anthony headed into college relatively blind in terms of college financial strategies.

What he did know is that he would need to have good grades in order to apply for financial aid.

Finding The College

Anthony did not choose his college based on a master plan to earn money in college. However, he did make a smart choice between an expensive private school and an affordable state school. He chose this particular state school because it had the only architecture school in the state that was not part of a private university.

I would later find out that architecture is all guts and little glory financially speaking.

Upon acceptance to Ball State's program, he was offered a 50% merit tuition discount. At the time, in 2008, the tuition for an in-state student was around $8,000 a year so the scholarship covered around $4,000 of that. The choice between this and Notre Dame's expensive program was easy. The scholarship was a part of the general application process, so he did not need to apply for this one separately.

College Expenses

For an entire year of tuition and room and board at Ball State, the total cost was around $18,500. Tuition was around $8,000 and the remaining $8,500 covered room and board. The merit scholarship dropped his tuition bill to around $4,000 a year.

Next, he applied for and received around $8,000 a year in grants. The federal grants totaled $5,500 a year and the state grants covered $2,500 a year.

With all of that, Anthony only had to cover $3,000 to $4,000 a year for the first three years. In order to make up the difference, he would take out student loans. He had an interesting approach to student loans. As a child from a relatively low-income family, he was able to take out subsidized student loans through the federal government. However, the government allowed him to take out more loans than he actually needed.

I could never quite figure out why the government expected me to spend more on college than the true cost of the college. But there was a margin there that allowed me to borrow more money than I needed.

In his first year, he chose not to borrow the extra money. In his sophomore year, he took out the maximum amount of subsidized loans and put the extra money into a CD. With this strategy, he was able to earn a little bit of extra money.

Getting Paid For College

For the first three years of college, Anthony used student loans to make up the difference between his scholarships and the total cost of college. However, his senior year he landed a resident assistant position that pushed him into the black.

As a resident assistant, he was paid with free room and board, plus, a stipend of around $1,000 a year. When he combined that with his other scholarships and grants, he was able to earn a profit of $3,500. The money was sent to him through the bursar's office once they realized he had a surplus in the account.

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How To Land A Resident Assistant Position

Many schools offer this opportunity, but the exact compensation of the arrangement will likely vary. Check into the details of your school's offering.

The RA position and the RA selection process at my university, and I would assume most universities, is a cutthroat process. There are a limited number of positions and there are tons of people trying to get them because everyone knows the weight of financial impact that they carry.

The best thing to do is to get involved with housing and campus life as a freshman, even if it is at a volunteer level. It is possible to land an RA position as a sophomore if you play your cards right. Learn the rules of your school and follow them exactly.

Anthony did not get involved in the campus housing department until sophomore year. At each roll that he filled, he met people that helped him to become an RA, which was the ultimate financial win.

There was not one person who got me a resident assistant job. It was a broad spectrum of housing experience and knowing collectively the people in the room that got me where I needed to be.

Make the right connections on campus to help on your path to an RA position. You may be able to land an RA position earlier than your senior year, but you will have to put Anthony's strategies in place earlier in your college career.

Dream Job On Campus

In his second and third year, Anthony worked for campus housing as a glorified security guard. Basically, he would swipe people into the building with their ID cards between the 12 AM and 8 AM. Most of the time, there was not a lot of work to do. Instead, he was able to catch up on homework, life stuff, or sleep. Plus, he was getting paid slightly better than minimum wage which was a difficult thing to find on campus.

The job also helped him to build his housing resume for the RA position because the jobs were staffed by the same department.

Anthony's Path To FI

Within six months of graduation, Anthony was able to pay off his $12,000 in student loans before the interest clock started ticking. At the same time, the CDs he had put some of the loans into were maturing which helped to keep his living costs low. Remember, the interest gained on those CDs was basically gravy from temporarily interest-free student loans.

He worked to keep his expenses low for many years. At one point, he negotiated his rent down by offering to pay for the entire year upfront. It was a win-win for everyone, so Anthony was able to save even more on housing costs.

The power of having money...More power accrues to you all along your FI journey.

After saving up enough money to put 10% down on a house, he started house hacking. He bought a single-family home and moved in some recent college graduates to the upstairs bedrooms. For many years, his out of pocket mortgage cost was only around $100. When he bought this single-family home, he was able to buy out the PMI upfront at a discount. This option may not be available with every lender, but it is worth asking about.

Everything is negotiable if you ask the question. You may be told 'no', but you may be told 'yes'.

It is possible that you have the power to save more money or reclaim your time by simply asking. Question your limiting beliefs and make an effort to challenge the status quo to find unconventional ways to save.

Listen: House Hacking With Coach Carson

More Properties

After getting married, Anthony and his wife decided to stop living with roommates for now. With a high combined income, they have been able to save a lot of cash. That money allowed them to purchase a second home that they now live in. More recently, they bought a third single-family home in the area.

The couple is working on an equity play instead of an immediate income. Each of the houses will be paid off in 15 years. Once they are paid off, the portfolio will likely produce a significant amount of rental income after that. The current goal is to continue to buy houses and pay them off until they can fully fund their lifestyle.

Currently, the two rented houses earn $1,170 and $1,290 a month. With low vacancies, they plan to use this rental income as a large part of their FI strategy later on. As well as real estate they also invest in traditional retirement accounts.

The effort in being a real estate landlord in the single family world is to do your work up front and make sure you are finding quality tenants to place in your homes.

For now, they aren't sure what their FI number is because they have a child on the way that may change that end date significantly. Their current forecast is around 43 or 45 as their FI age.

Breaking With Old Advice

At the beginning of his personal finance journey, Anthony followed the tenants of Dave Ramsey. He listened in college and during his student loan debt repayment phase. It was a good way to set a foundation of budgeting and tracking his spending, but not necessarily the right advice for his long-term plans.

In terms of real estate rentals, he has gone in a different direction.

Anytime someone calls Dave Ramsey asking if it is OK to get a mortgage for a rental property, he tells the caller they should save up and pay cash for the rental property. However, if someone calls him who already has rental properties, he does not suggest selling them to pay off debt, but rather to continue the debt snowball, which would make a second house among the last things paid for most people.

In total, it boils down to Anthony and his wife prioritizing savings vehicles. One of those savings vehicles to wealth is rental properties and they plan to take full advantage of that. In fact, real estate will likely be the largest part of their FI journey.

Check out Brad and Jonathan's Friday roundup of this episode here.

How To Connect

If you would like to connect with Anthony, then reach out through Instagram @anthonydrewgary

The Hot Seat

Favorite Blog: Subscribing to a local business journal to stay up to date on trends in your local area.

Favorite Article: YouTube video--Calculating Numbers on a Rental Property (using the four square method) by Brandon Turner from BiggerPockets

Favorite Life Hack: Learning by listening to podcasts on his commute on one and a half or two times speed.

Biggest Financial Mistake: Rolled 401(k) into an IRA with the wrong advisor.

The advice you would give your younger self: Jim Rohn's "You are the average of the 5 people that you spend the most time with."

Bonus! What purchase have you made over the last 12 months that has brought the most value to your life? A 12-foot turf putting mat for winter golf practice.

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